Film Theory: Star Wars, How The Mandalorian PROVES the Empire was Right!

14. nov.. 2020
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With the return of The Mandalorian season 2 to Disney+, I felt it was about time to also return to a Star Wars theory. In a previous theory, I talked about how the Jedi could be construed as an 'evil' order. Today, I'm taking that kind of idea and flipping it to talk about the Empire itself! I think The Mandalorian provides us with even more clues that the Empire may not be as wrong in it's philosophy as we thought! How? Why? Well Theorists, make sure you Baby Yoda is somewhere safe because this is about to take a turn to the dark side...
0:38 - This is referencing two different studies citing two different percentages. It is not between 31% and 58%, it is both 31% and 58% percent results from the two studies.
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  • The moral of the story Following a rules are hard and killing But freedom is a real drug And were know drug tested really gooodddd dam

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  • You said the Empire and the First Order were different, but were they not both being led by Palpatine?

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  • So, maybe Russia under Stalin was utopia (just like the empire under Palpatine? Hmmm....... makes one wonder about our own history?

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  • But anakin was being controlled but Palpatine

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  • Why The Empire Was Actually Horrible, A Rebuttal: (Disclaimer: The Theorist Team Is Actually A Great Series Of Channels And While I May Occasionally Disagree With The Theories (Especially This One), They Make Amazing Content On A Consistent Basis) 2:50- 3:48 Nothing Yet I Can Directly Counter 3:48-5:49 "And from the way he says 'we' when talking about the Empire we can assume he was affiliated with them" We also can know he is affiliated with them by the way he has stormtroopers as guards, or that in the finale of season one we discover his superior is a Moff from an Imperial Remnant. Reporting Imperials To The New Republic Being Considered A Joke: This is a valid complaint about the New Republic failing to completely protect the Outer Rim. 5:57 - 6:46 (Tarkin's Speech Is Technically Not Part Of What is currently considered Canon) This is a speech written by a man strongly associated with the empire. Palpatine and the Sith were also major contributors to the fall of the Republic as well. The Senators who Tarkin deems selfish here were actually carried over into the new Imperial era. 6:46 - 7:00 "The Empire Achieving Unity Where Everyone Prospers" Unless You Count Almost All Of The Non-Humans And Many People Outside The Core Worlds 7:00 -7:24 "Our Sector Governors … Advance The Quality Of Life, Keeping Spaceways Safe, Improving Communications, And Ensuring Taxes Go To Improving Infrastructure" First, Those Sector Governers did little to improve the quality of life or improve the infrastructure, Instead Funneling the money into their pockets and the core worlds of the Empire. While Spaceways were safer that is simply because of the fact that the Empire had a massive standing army. I currently do not know whether or not there was any improvement or downgrade in communications within the Empire. 7:25 -7:50 Here MatPat argues that as Tarkin says in the speech, The Core Worlds leached off of the best resources from the Outer Rim First, I will say that this is most likely propaganda for The Empire and not an actual plan of governance widely used. Second, the Empire did the exact same thing, even going further and openly funding the strip mining of planets like Lothal for resources. 7:50 - 8:86 Division Of The Galaxy With Moffs And Grand Moffs: There Was Previously already some management with distinct governors of worlds who maintained separate systems and had a say on what happened in the Republic. "Liberation" of 95 worlds: This only means liberation if you mean that a sector goes from being ruled by small corrupt rulers to a massive corrupt entity that has much more soldiers and weapons to keep you from revolting. Many of these worlds would also likely participate in helping overthrow The Empire a short time later 9:27 - 10:55 New Republic Failing To Do Anything About The First Order: I Can't Say Anything To Counter This. After the death of Senator Mon Mothma The New Republic went downhill New Republic Being The Resistance: The New Republic was not the Resistance, simply only containing some people from it, and the comparison of the number of people on Coruscant and Resistance Fighters is likely inaccurate. 11:00 - 12:27 We Can't Trust Princess Leia, So Let's Blow Alderaan Up: Most of the people on Alderaan were not Rebel supporters and most of Alderaan's support for the Rebellion came from it's leaders. The Rebels Destroyed The Death Star, Killing Innocent People: Those "Innocent" people on the Death Star (A Weapon Of Mass Destruction) does not cancel out all of the people who died on Alderaan (Containing several Billion almost all civilians). Not to mention, if The Rebellion did leave the Death Stars standing the Empire would likely have used the weapons to murder many billions more. Notes On The Quality Of Life Under The Empire: The Empire Used Slaves Everywhere. From supporting CRIMINALS on Kessel, to enslaving Geonosians before committing genocide on them, To Wookiees, To bunch of other cases. Also the Empire did not care about any of the average people from the Outer Rim to even some of the Core Worlds (ie. driving people out of business, making working conditions worse, coercing people to develop weapons, and casually imprisoning or killing those who are deemed anti-Imperial). -END

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  • 6:16 Someone dumb this down for me, I have no clue what this speech means.

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  • Let's just say that the Republic, the Empire, and the New Republic were all shitty in their own unique ways.

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  • Well, following along that logic you could make the same points about the Nazis.

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  • Both the Empire and Republic had a goal in the interest the people, it just was corrupted, pretty much by Palpatine

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  • The Empire weren’t the total bad guys, but playing off their actions as justified is a bit much, some things they did were good, but the means didn’t pay off with the ends, they did protect the Galaxy from merciless chaos (in some places) they enslaved a lot of species to build their war machine.

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  • And a lot of the goals and ideals the empire thought they sought out to achieve was propaganda for Palpatine to gain public support to satisfy his hunger for power, the Sith sought power out for themselves and were ruthless and hurt anyone in their way.

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  • Except for aliens, because most members of the Empire were xenophobic and even the most talented officers like Thrawn were kept in the outer rim, aliens were heavily oppressed, so the Republic failed to do a lot of things but when you look at how the Empire kept power, it kept the core worlds happy because to them, nothing changed from how things were done in the republic, I like watching your videos, but Star Wars is always a layer deeper that a few days of research. No one is the good guy, it’s all from certain points of view, Jedi are heroes to some people and the Sith are heroes to others. Many interests go into the picture and both the republic and empire failed to keep ethical and just practices.

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  • Baby yoda is NOT baby yoda in the mandalorion its a different creature

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  • 10:16 stopped here

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  • So what you're saying is... Winning was easy, governing's harder?

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  • Its almost as if the Empire represented capitalism and the new republic is socialism.. Lol

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  • "The Foundations of Star Wars"

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    • "The Heart of Star Wars"

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  • Sequel sucks who doesnt know that.

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  • The thing is if they followed paptdate then the world would end bc they would exsplode the world and then there would be now one to help people who are getting hurt bc the people would be following paptadate sorry if im jinking the name so you were right but also wrong sence then the planet would end and there would be no planet to be the leader of and if the rebls/good guy and bad guys got htere way it would be more nice but not a very good civalizatioun

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  • Slavery, mistreatment and exploitation were just shifted to a huge organized Dictatorship under imperial rule. They did nothing better than the Republic, except they sold it as serving the greater good.

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  • So the new republic is basically the UN

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  • so when will you do a film theory on hill house and bly manor?

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  • The real reason for the empires huge military, the real reason for the death star was because sidious knew they would be invaded. He had been beyond the galaxy's edge, where he encountered the Yuuzhan Vong. An alien race who considered mechanical technology blasphemy, who would slaughter or enslave everyone in their path.

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  • Imagine agreeing with space fascists

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  • I honestly think the empire is good. I will not be brainwashed by the jedi

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  • Are you seriously telling me the fascist autocracy that barely lasted two decades was a superior system of governance to the democracy that lasted over twenty thousand years?

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  • this is my new favorite video.

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  • Counter point: sure, the system of moffs and grand moffs dividing the galaxy into sectors may have helped with infrastructure and order, But those people that the moffs ruled over did not have representation. Especially in the outer rim, the moffs ruled very similarly to colonial governors, only interested in the resource potential of their constituency, with no regard for the citizens. Look at kashyyyk.

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  • Hey matpat can you make a theory about stormtroopers and the fall of the clones at the end of the clone wars

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  • This whole episode is a metaphor for real events happening in our world. our controlling overlords are the empire and the republic is the resistant freedom fighters of our world.

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  • Sooooo MattPat has been recruited by the illuminati and is feeding us socialist philosophy.

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  • This sounds like communism lol

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  • Execute order 66

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  • Well, that's wrong on a lot of ways, even Mandalore itself, who was a planet that just had conquered it peace back had all of it's citizens turned into slaves once the Empire took control. And for all we can see is obvious that the conflict is still going, but just because the rebels regained control just a little while ago and the universe is a giant thing to coordenate. Even the conflict itself is not over because that's a lot of Empire cells scatered away throught the universe, that is so real that in the future we see the rise of the First Order with the control of a lot of planets.

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  • There have been books in the Star Wars universe showing the empire as oppressing planets to produce crops for the imperial army. The empire is also shown to support people who only think of themselves, much like the old republic.

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  • Well, I think everyone knew this whole thing cause the Outer Rim was treated so badly, planets were cut off just cause they didn't want to support a cause that screwed them, etc

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  • Am I the only one that thinks it would be better if planets ruled themselves and the republic was more like the UN? Obviously not a perfect system, I get that. But in every trilogy Palpatine was manipulating everything in the gov if not str8 up calling the shots as emperor. The republic was full of corruption, from Palpatine and groups like the trade federation and kamino that were on Palpatines payroll. But if the republic were just a loose quasi alliance of systems, it would be much much harder for a sith lord to manipulate everyone. And the clone Wars would never happen if the republic didn't have authority to stop the separatists from leaving. (Honestly, if it weren't for the fact that the separatists were lead by dooku and gunray etc, I would side with them bec if they thought the republic was bad they should be able to leave). And there can still be intergalactic law against slavery for example and they could have a militant force to enforce said laws if necessary, or ask a trusted system to send their military, which the UN has done. They could also host negotiations btw systems that are considering war or are at war. The republic asked the jedi to do so (like in ep 1) and the jedi can hold their own if violence breaks out. Not perfect, still lots of problems (you would know since that is how our international politics is ran), but o think it's the best way to prevent dark side corruption, and it puts less stress on the republic so they can get real actual problems figured out

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  • Hey Mattpat I have a question than a theory but how would YOU rule the star wars galaxy. Would you rule like the Empire or set up another Republic called New New Republic.

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  • fun fact : the species of the child, yoda and yaddle doesn't have a proper name and is called "yoda's species" even by one of the creators of star wars

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  • The Empire destroyed the wookies and turned them into slaves. But i can see where you come from

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  • What about the Wookiee’s they were enslaved

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  • any other libertarians here rolling thier eyes when matpat said that if you give up all your liberty and give the galactic government total control they will make you safer

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    • always look forward to your videos !!

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  • Meh Star wars is boring

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  • I always did like the Empire more than the Rebels.

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  • Oh dear oh dear

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  • Based off the books, the Empire didn't leave the Ewoks alone. The Empire destroyed several Ewok villages on initial arrival because the were "pests in the way."

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  • O

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  • Children are stolen by the empire while their parents are killed ≠ children willing going with Jedi with parents approval. All of your premises are crappy here.

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  • Bruh

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  • The prosperity of some planets was achieved by exploiting others during the Empire's reign. You can find more about that in Thrawn, Lost Stars and Ahsoka novels. So yeah, so much about the theory that Empire was bringing prosperity to Core and Outer Rim worlds alike :P

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  • the new mandalorian proves or biggest worrys

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  • I don’t even watch Star Wars and/or don’t know the timeline. But ok.

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  • At least when the first order happens the Jedi were like, at least good people

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  • The Tarkin doctrine sounds a lot like communism to me

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  • Darth Vader was a jobs creator! Look at all the people employed on the Death Star!

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  • Remember, history is written by the winners

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  • In Luke’s defense the Ewoks were planning to cook and eat him and his friends...

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  • Film theory making excuses for fascism...

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    • Well it's not the real world so?

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  • Not sure I agree with that argument about slavery 🤔

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  • Me: thinks this is a theory about the child Mattpatt: THINK AGAIN!!

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    • "Thanks to today's sponser,The Galactic Empire."

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  • 3:28 lol he's got backwards hands

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  • Let's say both sides are ideologic and misusing other people for it.

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  • Next time : The combine were the heros

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  • I too am a big fan of literal facism

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  • #Thankmas #CallToAction

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  • Legit just finished watching the clone wars animated series, there were too many moments when the jedi order refused help or salvation to the neutral or dying worlds, because coruscant was more important to them, ironically enough with everyone but the nobility and the jedi living in near poverty. From what happens in the first scenes of SOLO, we easily see that the empire ain't too bad as a functioning government. Yeah they had their moments, but the republic wasn't even close to the level of development that the Empire had.

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  • "Once more the Sith will rule the Galaxy and we shall have... peace."

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  • the mandalorian seems like lockdown from transformers age of extinction

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  • USSR was also great for some poorer regions that totally collapsed with USSR and are still doing very badly. This doesn't make USSR good though.

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  • I normally love film theory, but honestly, a full fledged defense of the fascist empire shoulda been called into question before the video was posted. Why not just stick to, “the republic was bad”. We all coulda done without the empire is good bit.

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  • YAY!

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  • Dude, don't even try to use anything from the sequels in your videos, we all know that they never happened.

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  • I didn’t even watch this, but I can tell it didn’t age well with the reveal of why the Gideon wants baby yoda. Not gonna say though because spoilers

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  • "Thanks to today's sponser,The Galactic Empire."

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    • Can't wait to r/whoosh Just kidding I copied someone else's comment.. Hohohohohohohoho

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  • is Star wars not more about the chaotic good rebels fighting lawful evil empire, Both sides have Their positive and negatives Both Missing the point of how to provide for all its people. It's great that certain characters talked about bringing balance to the force But understood it to mean completely the opposite.

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  • About the beginning, I had a project in my high school psychology class where we diagnose a fictional character with a personality disorder. It was really fun

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  • The war didn't end wih the battle of Endor, it did with the battle of Jakku.

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  • Btw, the Mandalorian didn't take place anywhere near the time of the original star wars movies. Yoda was still very young, so there is no way there was 800 years between the movies. The Mandalorian took place WAAAAAY before any of this happened

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    • The Mandalorian series takes plays 5 years after the destruction of the second Death Star, not years before.

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  • The book Tarkin is not Legends...

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  • The empire was a better government... unless you are a Wookie or you live on a planet in the outlying system. Admittedly, if you live in the outlying system you are screwed under either government. Just saying with the deals the empire made with the Hut clan on several occasions the outlying system wasn't really much better off.

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  • Makes sense, innit. Unless you take freedom into account.

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  • This isn’t well known by non hardcore Star Wars fans, but in legends the Jedi were the ones who started fighting the sith, the sith just wanted to be left alone and study the dark side.

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  • Since watching star wars in my teens I always though the empire to be the good guys... yes there supreme leaders evil but I can see that there was more prosperity and sucess under the empire then the republic... just my thoughts...

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  • Luke convincing the ewoks was so they would not be eaten by them. As for the everyday citizen being happy under the empires rule you forget about all the people they forced into slavery.

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  • Also that’s how the empire got its solders not by making clones or by stealing young kids but by winning the people in there trust

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  • Because of this video, I now believe in the Sith. F**k those rebel scum...

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  • 0:33 i disagree with that but they aren't the good guys either, the Jedi are extremist and when you go to the extreme of anything you tend to start going wrong and to make matters worse they are an extremist religious group that as part of their training teaches there people to hate others based on their beliefs and are heavily armed i mean what could possibly go wrong with that idea?

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  • 13:28 MatPat’s clearly never played Ewok Hunt on Battlefront II😂

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  • So... uh... are we just going to ignore the entirety of Star Wars Rebels? In this show alone, the Empire - Burned a mining planet for resources - Enslaved it's inhabitants into the workforce - Enslaved the Wookies - Add puppet leaders to betray their own people - Kidnap children - Restrict output/press - Torture captives - Use a Jedi Master's CORPSE as a way to lure the enemy - Takes Hostages - Bombs an innocent city - Indoctrination of minors The entire show is about showing that the empire is evil, and not redeemable in any way (aside from being efficient) The empire is only good in the same sense that Germany was "good" in WWII which everyone knows is not the case. The Imperial troops are called "Stormtroopers."

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  • HEY MATPAT! So I have an idea for your fourth channel (to complete the little circle thing in all of your channel logos, food theory being the third one). It could be Life Theory, involving things in the real world. Things like “why do people enjoy __ so much?” You could get I to more science and math stuff, because both science and math are part of real life. Personally, if you did make this, I would love for you to explain why schools teach us stuff we might not even need in the real world. I think that’s a question we all want the answer to. Well, I doubt you’ll actually be reading this comment, but I’m gonna do my best to get it in your sight.

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  • That’s why I am an authoritarian

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    • @Emily An nah I’ve been an authoritarian for a while as in I’m a absolute monarchist and a right wing socialist

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    • Cool...super loved it?

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  • Democracy: The God that Failed

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    • Real life example of this is Gaddafi

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  • The Empire is literally Conunissum, sometimes good, some time bad ._.

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  • What I told you was true, from a certain point of view. You're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

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  • In legends, the empire was built to face the inevitable yuuzhan vong invasion, palpatine discovered the Outlanders plan for invasion of the galactic republic and decided the old republic was too weak to fight off an invasion of that size, he was right, the new republic nearly lost that war it took a pact with the emperial remnant to stop the invasion. So yeah palpatine was right, but that was the old canon

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  • The new republic only exists for 5 years so they are still building it up.

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  • Right so din djarin has to believe that the empire improves every planet it touches. But take in mind that when the empire touched mandalore they killed everybody and stole all theyer resources. Also known as the great purge

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  • the new republics biggest failure probably comes from the fact that instead of taking over the empire, they just destroyed it. the empire had a huge advantage when it started because it simply took over the republic and rebuilt it. but the new republic tried starting from scratch, which was stupid.

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