World of Warcraft: Shadowlands is one week away, so today I rank the melee DPS specs from WORST to BEST for the start of this expansion!
0:00 Intro
0:49 The forgotten spec
3:45 Badtalons
7:59 Roll the nos
12:28 This spec fel down
16:58 Most not changed spec
21:18 The spec to show your friends you're smart
25:42 Frostmourne hungers
30:10 The gospel of burst
33:39 Electric tiger boogaloo
37:05 Legs
40:52 No brakes
45:34 The dark horse
52:51 The best melee dps
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You are pve dungeon noob
Survival Hunter should be lik soul Beast in guild wars 2, sometimes merging with the pet and when the hunter deal damage while merged the soul of the beast lashes out with attacks. could be the change it needs.
Great video! Exactly what's needed for someone looking to come back for Shadowlands. Thanks!
People really need to stop sleeping on Survival. Not only is it the most fun hunter spec imo, the numbers are still competitive. I beat MM hunters in Nathria all the time. "Shrugs"
Back to wow for the first time since Cata, where enhance was my main. Glad to see the spec getting some love. Sadly going ret as my main. Enhance still too squishy in PvP.
I’d advocate for people playing what they want man. Stop giving a one sided opinion to things and give people an encouraging voice to play the game how THEY want and pick a class they are interested in. The words like “I think” or “I’d just play rogue if you like feral”
Bleh I love being an outlaw rogue
What nameplates addon is that? love the way it does castbars
Can we just have ONE xpack without some rogue spec being the best?? Geez Blizzard
Arms warrior is so much fun to play.
Coming back to wow since beginning of BoA, but what is the addon you have in between character bars ?? awesome video !
Do you use ELVui or SUF? Can you post the link to your interface with weakauras included? I love it!!
Ha you talked so bad about survival and feral and they end up being in top 6 dps in Castle Nathria
I played late vanilla, just before BC, until MoP launch. Not sure if I want to come back and if I would recognise the game if I did. This vid is helpful.
Feral doesn't get feral affinity.... It picks one of the other affinities... How dumb lmao
Survival hunter is the worst... Is in second and first place dps the whole video of the gameplay
Unholy Death Knight is probably the best Spec ever imo. I am deeply in love with this spec.
@jeff R i was full armour pen 2h frost, before the conversion to critical strike, where i had 48% critical strike as a frost 2h, with rime and your oblit crits 😂 Or i use to main vampiric blood dps in frost presence; all back in wotlk ah
Been in love with UH since Cata when they took blood DK melee out of the options. I played dual wielding blood melee in WOLK. I know weird, but it worked well.
Same! Since pre patch Legion. Even during the bad patches with trash Legendries lol. It's just so engadging.
I’ve been nuking the dpsmeters with enhance
what addon is it that shows his cooldowns and resource when hes in combat in the middle of his screen only when in combat?
you mean weak auras? You can change in settings to show only in combat
"if you're looking for 2handed weapons and you keep getting 1handed" my pain
Irony: Calling survival hunter the worst as you show one topping the DPS meter? Not a big deal, I get it, it was just a funny backdrop for that part of the vid
Yes fury is fun, but fury is still shit compared to all the other meele dps
How could I not expect sub rogue to be on top? I mean look at the terror they're bringing to pvp rn.
Never listen to the "guild gay".
Puting DH before feral seems like a mistake. Havoc is basicly dead right now
anyone know his nameplate addon/profile?
Wow...they brought back basicly the best parts of enhancement shaman from firelands to shadowlands. I've missed fire nova Soo so so much.
survival hunter was fun in bfa, havent tried it in shadowlands yet. Been playing my DK
Survival hunter was great in Legion from all i played it felt most rewarding to play correctly and it was kinda hard when looking on other classes. Outlaw aswell as Assassination rogues got changed only in a bad way and as a main rogue (esspecially Assa) i never felt so bored playing a class, i mean yeah sub is strong but bored at the end and it will 100% get a nerf depending PvP you completely obliterate every class, if anything comes even close to hurting you you messed it up in my eyes. The Blade Flurry is ok and kinda stronger when your used to it, But the roll the bones is bad aswell, i enjoyed outlaw in BFA but it really was messed up in Shadowlands. Assassination is missing Kingsbane aswell as toxic blade (it was more about the combo i know about shiv dont hate me^^) in my eyes it was best in Legion. Subtletly is ok but it also gets boring after time it was also better in Legion in my eyes. Also why do we even have slice n dice? It feels so bad to play with esspecially as assa, i really hope they remove it again. And when it comes to DH im so happy that they finally got nerfed. they are still good in AOE. As a melee fighting a DH was frustrating because they healed so much and evaded so much abilities (mostly my kidneys xD). Now i can fight them on equal terms with my Arms warrior.
Hello, very nice video. Do you still feel the same way, after playing for 2 weeks?
Survival is worst dps spec.....tops dps meter on boss
plays unholy completely wrong and even talks about it completely wrong. big yikes. worst review of the melee classes ive seen yet
Listen, sure survival hunter is pretty trash right now, but its so goddamn fun to play it doesn't matter how bad it is
Funny thing is, as survival I have a blast. A lot more fun than spamming 2 abilities whole dungeon. W as fun before and didn't NEED changes. The few that we got are enough. It's a hybrid spec that requires you to think and not be brain dead in m+. Also, top meters 90% and it's sad people think that surv is that bad. Most fun spec IMO. Still liked the video you terrible person xD
where tf is enhancement shaman :(
watch the video till the end its in the video
I also think Surv hunter would be really fun and cool as a trapper. Like they use their traps and whatnot to do damage
I started playing Enh for the first time this xpac and I am loving it BUT I am also leveling a surv hunter purely because I have a fire transmog for it
damn rip, just started playing wow on my own account and am leveling a surv hunter so its kinda sad to see them all the way down the list
Keep playing what you want. I love playing survival. Just seen someone else rank surv as the most fun spec is shadowlands 😊
Imagine how cringey it would be telling women your name is nubkeks 😂
why are you laughing like all the time :P
i'm a sv hunter main.. help me pls
you can put stealth on a bind my brother lol
I left towards the beginning of bfa and just returned.... What have they done to my demon babies
Gonna just say unholy dk is the correct #1 before watching the video
I can't believe UH is only ranked 8! I am having so much fun with it, and it actually makes me think on my feet a little bit. There's a lot to manage and it keeps me super engaged.
Yes! UH the best :))
me: almost completed the story as survival. me: destroying in PVP. me: meh in dungeons. But last alive - even after tank and healer died - downed the boss on my own. Survival is underrated.
Survival isn´t crappy lol ? Its pretty solid and doesnt really need much changes
Nice UI
I just looked at your keybindings...what key do you press to walk forward if w is bound to a spell???
@Slick Beats using the keyboard actually registers slower when turning. Those that have played for years realize that for certain mechanics and pvp it really is a life saver
@J T can't imagine doing that, just started last week tho
most people use the mouse to move
The mouse?
Survival is bae in PvP :)
Hello Momks?
46:08 You sneaky devil "Like the mists of Fandaria" he knows so many players actually loved that expansion and miss it.
The frost DK cooldowns dont line up because ERW got a 15 sec CD reduction.
Point of order Dks and Ret doing more damage than every other melee right now. But I like this list except enhance is prolly around monk it got some cool buffs feels good to play but it’s output isn’t nearly as high as number 2 would be
I know this is a bit off topic, but whats the weapon skin you used with your sub rogue? Looks really great
My names Scott Malkinson and i have diabetes
Who cares? Play what's fun to you. 99% of us aren't racing to the end of the game so that we have nothing else to do.
how are you playing with W key binded?
What addons are you using for your improved healthbars?
What addons do you use, pls give a list if possible :)
Even though it hasn't changed, Survival is still my favorite hunter spec. It's fast paced, it's got decent combos, and it's fun to be swing around and throwing bombs all over the place.
The other thing that’s really not fun about havoc is blizz took bfa abilities and spread them out over the soul binds so you progressively over the expansion get back to where you already started from last xpac... feels a little heavy handed IMO
I find the speed of fury warrior very fun and enhancement shaman is a blast too. Leaning towards one of those two. Was going to do 2h Frost DK but obliterate feels like a wet noodle right now.
Hey! Different question, what are you using ui wise? Is it plater? I'm trying to have the health bar the same as you but I can't figure out how to do it..
Shaman is just too squishy to enjoy. I hate needing to use my MW to continuously heal myself.
Man, I sure do love that they got rid of buff totems for elemental but decided to give it to back to enhancement. I just want my Wrath totems back T_T
Sub Rogue is so badass right now.
Weird, i can't get enough of playing outlaw, it's a ton of fun
I've leveled a sub rogue and assassin rogue during prepatch and I already had a max level outlaw. Idk if its cause of the gear difference but outlaw def feels great in comparison.
Ikr?
enhance even better cus wf totem boost all the other mele classes
LOVE FERAL BUT SINCE legion they just decided to scrap them
if you use timestamp, why not make them useful?...
35:10 Everyone??? Sorry Nubs, that's a hard "your wrong, that's just your opinion" there. Monk mastery is a highly subjective topic. If monk was SO fun it would be a much more popular spec. According to Wowpedia it currently is and has been the long time title holder of the least played spec in the game. As it's mastery is the most punishing in the game, combined with "Hit Combo" and a single button mispress loses you around 30% damage on that attack and then further a 1-3% damage averaged loss for the next 5 attacks. Those that like the mastery playstyle tend to love it, which is a far more accurate representation of the topic.
"I had fun with it so it's awesome!" Definitely doesn't translate to "Spec is in great shape with a fun rotation and great utility!" Lol... I'm with you
i play A LOT of melee dps i think with the exception of enhancement shaman i have leveled every melee dps class at one point or another to max level. I have also had max level rogues of every spec at one point or another over the years. The old combat spec circa wotlk was pretty solid but this new sub feels so fun to play. You are constantly spamming big finishers and then disappearing behind your opponent or flipping on shadowdance and flinging cheapshots and shadow strikes around. It feels incredibly flavorful and useful.
As an old Enhancment shamy i love the changes. It is sooo fast pasted, and chaotic. You have to like that, and need the ADHD to keep up with your priority list. But if you can manage it, its so much fun.
Can you (or someone else) please explain to me how do you have that weapon glow for 5 minutes? When I use the venthyr ability I get the glow only for 20 secons :(
I miss how good was Survival in Legion...
Survival Hunter needs Fury of the Eagle back.
My DH can beat any rogue damage. But it's cause I like my DH.love your videos.
Correction: Empowered Rune Weapon doesn't sync up with anything, because of the 15sec CD reduction it gets through leveling in SL. So yeah, Pillar of Frost increased CD is just that. A nerf. - Also BoS will get even more controversial in SL, due to how talents and conduits most of the time are relying on regular use of frost strikes, and won't work at all while you are breathing out loud.
I'm still playing Havoc so play what ya enjoy :D
Arms and Fury is always hard to decide on for me. I like playing both. I prefer Unholy to Frost in their current states. Sub rogue and ret paladin are both fun to me, but I will be busy with my warrior and mage alt. Not sure how many things I'll be able to play. Hopefully the game is alt friendly enough so that I can play at least 3 different characters reasonably
I want to see 2h Frost DK make a strong return. Not sure it'll measure up to Unholy, though. Happy to see 2h back none-the-less!
Wow, that UI with frames in the middle and CDs is fantastic. What addon is that?
It looks like Tell Me When? Could be wrong though.
MW monk... -------->[]
For leveling I enjoy Feral. Fast mount, extra passive speed when fighting, stealth, and some decent self healing. Rogue is a bit squishier. Once done leveling, switch to another spec.
Sad but true... that's exactly what I did lol
I’ve mained rogue for 10 years and Outlaw just feels kind of clunky. I will often waste combo points or energy because sinister strike will randomly give different amounts of points and if you have higher than 80 ms just forget about it. Haste actually makes it worse believe it or not. Assasination always feels good because even though mutilate gives anywhere from 2 - 4 points, you are only using it twice at max instead of spamming sinister strike up to 5 times. Also killing spree has been tuned into being used as an aoe ability and it’s just not as fun as it used to be. Back in MoP if you get hit by a killing spree you better stun or you’re in for a rough night
An enhancement Shaman here giving you a like 👍🏼
haha as a survival hunter player, i knew survival or feral was going to be last before video even started
Lvl 20-29 survival hunter used to be OP as shit pvp!! 😂😂
xD
@Jackson Smith man stfu, go troll somewhere
Haha okay no body gives a shit haha
@will b. d. its great as an alt, really fun nd easy rotation
not sure why they dont just delete feral from the game... has the most boring and lackluster kit with 0 fun procs, 0 utility and what little it had, they made sure to give it away with nothing in return
did you do ranged tier list?????
THAT ARMS/LEGS JOKE I FUCKING DIED! so simple yet so fucking funny. Liked followed bell and everything my dude lmao
What addon is that for your unit frames?
Why is the class you are discussing fun my friend? All you are doing is talking about the class changes. What about those changes make it fun???? You seem to completely ignore your entire video topic
Thank you for taking the time and effort to make this video :) , i like it
Survival doesn't make any sense whatsoever but its fairly fun to play. There's just no point...
sad that everybody play hord , it's like playing the game on easy mode
cool chapter names
Love Survival hunter and the melee/ranged fantasy out of it so I am going to play Survival. I'm just so bored of spaming cobra shot barbed shot then kill command or do multi target rapid fire and cast aimed shot. Its just so boring
A prediction... Sub rogue nerfed to dust in next week...
What are your keybinds for the Sub rogue? What keys are you using to move? I see you have W bound to the hotbar, so are you using zxc?
blizz will prob nerf sub into the ground again btw
So good to see enhancement returning to their wrath hectic cooldown days, some serious nostalgia to me. Shame there’s no searing totem but gotta take what you can get!
I just want an option to play 2Handed Axe/Mace as Enh like classic. They did it for Frost DK Blz Plz