The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05

15. april. 2021
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There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.
Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.
But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.
The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?
Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.
For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.
With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.
Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.
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  • This host is so good!

    Hafiz SaniHafiz Sani55 minutter siden
  • W124, the best of the best of the best...

    Lautaro SantanderLautaro SantanderTime siden
  • Neat copywriting. They don't make em like this anymore.

    Selçuk AkyüzSelçuk Akyüz8 timer siden
  • this was THE car

    Jake WrightJake Wright9 timer siden
  • The best thing is i have the one from 1991 and it has a more calm diving experience than the 2020 Mercedes

    Angel StoilkovAngel Stoilkov10 timer siden
  • Stop watching once he put his finger in his nose, yak

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  • Ben Affleck's brother knows a lot about cars.

    JesseJesse17 timer siden
  • Ben Affleck in a chilled mode

    Stallone BhaiStallone Bhai17 timer siden
  • What an absolutely beautiful car. I just picked up a 2007 280 with only 45,000 miles and it was a dr whom owned it. He sold it to me for insanely cheap! My son is 11 so I’m thinking about him and I customizing together then give it to him as his first car!

    Joshua BartleyJoshua Bartley18 timer siden
  • What kinda tires were on that thing?

    Objective JediObjective Jedi23 timer siden
  • I don't know why this popped up recommended. I want an airplane.

    VeryCleaverNameVeryCleaverNameDag siden
  • What a great review off to watch it again and again. ❤️

    Con VerdisCon VerdisDag siden
  • Thanks Ben! 👍

    O KO KDag siden
  • I remember my childhood time (1982), it was the best and most expensive car was 500 SEL and then came 560 SEL

    Al AmeriAl AmeriDag siden
  • It's so heavy that it feels good to use in a bumpy road.

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  • Also known as "The Factory Hammer"

    Michael OrekyehMichael OrekyehDag siden
  • Subscribed....

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  • Do you have any photos of the 500E and 993 together? That is the absolute perfect pair in existence, and I’d love to have that as a wallpaper

    mattyjbsrmattyjbsrDag siden
  • ...and also , the world's ugliest sedan. Mercedes aesthetics suck..even today.

    Alex P.Alex P.Dag siden
  • It's more of a dictator/crime leader car.

    Burhan BudakBurhan BudakDag siden
  • *laughs in M5*

    SotosM3 E30SotosM3 E30Dag siden
  • 12:00 best designed, engineered, blah blah, sedan of all time? May I humbly present... BMW's E39 ('96-'03 5-series). I recall the auto journalists, commiserating with Mercedes after the E39 launch: "it must sting that, every time you release a model that gets a step ahead of the BMW, they come out with a new model that not so much moves the goal posts as literally hurls them over the horizon." My M5 is 21 years old now and I'm still waiting for a car of such beauty, performance, sound, interior, and quality to replace it with. Succeeding 5-series generations have been to big, the 3-series still seem down-market, and nothing is as beautiful.

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  • E28 review please? Frm Malaysia

    Christopher CharlesChristopher CharlesDag siden
  • 6:50 332HP from 5 liters? The E39 M5 got 400HP from that displacement, and could be increased to 500HP with kits. Anyone know if similar were available for this 500E?

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  • So what I understood is that if you have problems, run to Porsche

    Sabyasachi GhoshSabyasachi GhoshDag siden
  • 3:10 the arm did NOT remain parallel to the airflow throughout its sweep. What the heck are you saying this and why are you saying it? The picture fully contradicts you.

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  • The W124 was also called "Deutscher Panzer" (German Tank) because it never breaks. Our W124 which we had was the most reliable ever since today. Our Family also worked at Mercedes 3 generations. But what came at the 2000s was just an engineering shame.

    Hans WurstHans WurstDag siden
  • Wish you wouldn't say "Portia" about "Porsche."

    felsner1felsner1Dag siden
  • European JUNK. Over priced, difficult to repair, expensive parts, pointlessly expensive to buy, not reliable, outdated, terrible resale value, petroleum based. NEVER buy european vehicles !...... or crystler for that matter. JUNK !

    Sloppy TurtleSloppy Turtle2 dager siden
  • I always wanted to buy this car, the diesel one....and now I most likely will....God willing

    Em AreEm Are2 dager siden
  • This dude reminds me of Adam Sandler. Good review btw and what a beautiful Benz. Coming from a bmw owner n54 engine twin turbo! I might need a Benz on my bucket list.

    Guillermo CarrilloGuillermo Carrillo2 dager siden
  • This is Why Mercedes is my favorite car And for me to want that old car as my car right now in 2021 speaks volumes of this mammoth of a tycoon

    Hamza SadkaouiHamza Sadkaoui2 dager siden
  • Needs daytons

    Colorado Cool KidColorado Cool Kid2 dager siden
  • 11:49 Bro. Did you pee your pants or is that something else?

    MarcoNoPoloMarcoNoPolo2 dager siden
  • The class of time, revolution succeed. Hats off for this video.

    Ather ZaidiAther Zaidi2 dager siden
  • Good god this popped up and it is amazing quality made better due to nostalgia. But aside from that, this is on the level of, but more chill than top gear. I am not a car person but wow....

    turkeypazturkeypaz2 dager siden
  • It was a real pleasure to watch your video, beautifully done!! I am honored to say I got to drive my friends 1993 500E about 12 years ago in Ohio. It was solid, fast and tight. Although primitive in this day and age, the dashboard was simplistic and easy to operate which I loved. An experience I'll never forget.

    Pepperoni PetePepperoni Pete2 dager siden
  • GREAT video and explanation thanks and what a car!!!!

    Simon FowlerSimon Fowler2 dager siden
  • Does this one have the famous emission defeating devices fitted as standard or an optional extra...? Will rebates and or parts still be available when the EU finally collapses...? Personally, I think a Lexus or Toyota for me... Reliable and longevity built in, unsurpassed Japanese quality.

    Peteri DaviesPeteri Davies2 dager siden
  • there is one sitting in the driveway next to my house for at least the pass 10 years. It breaks my heart every day as i have to walk pass it. Owner doesn't to sell!!!!!

    David WhiteDavid White2 dager siden
  • Think if Mercedes today refurbish this car with the newer tech 🤯

    Ali RazaAli Raza2 dager siden
  • I'm stunned by the production quality of this video. Here ... Take my sub.

    SersouSersou2 dager siden
  • best sedan in the world and then booooooooommm bmw comes with the e39 m5

    Albin111Albin1112 dager siden
  • So sad that sedans are vanishing today, giving place to all those ugly and stupid SUVs...

    André CataniAndré Catani2 dager siden
  • I would 100% agree if I didn’t own the coupe version... Really such a great looking car from every angle!

    Matt's GarageMatt's Garage2 dager siden
  • Loved my 1990 300E.... great car. The giant V8 in the 500 looks like a complete bear to work on.

    Trey ScudderTrey Scudder3 dager siden
  • Nice video, thanks. I, myself, drive W124 3.2 Sportline 1995.

    Jason GoweserJason Goweser3 dager siden
  • *cough* LS400 *cough*

    Clayton BridgesClayton Bridges3 dager siden
  • Well you say "500E over cornered M cars" dear Jason, I watched Keiichi Tsuchiya (a.k.a DK) killed 500E with a 3.8 E34 M5 on the track. I agree W124 is a legendary car which 500E is even more legendary but E34 M5 is a better "sports car".

    Ozi YılmazOzi Yılmaz3 dager siden
  • That grain filter on all the old footage looks really bad

    Simon ArdforsSimon Ardfors3 dager siden
  • Jason, this is content you were born to create. Poor man’s Ryan Reynolds anyone? + as an enthusiast who came of age in the 90’s this car remains a pinnacle and I will boot myself for not buying one for 20k with 40000 miles

    J MillsJ Mills3 dager siden
  • lovely driving this masterpiece

    ghetto journalist tvghetto journalist tv3 dager siden
  • I worked at a Mercedes Benz dealership for over 19 years (starting in 1988). The500E was an awesome car and fun to drive. The video says no Porsche parts, but I remember standing at the parts counter as they ordered transmission parts from Porsche for a 500E. My friend who still works there had one. He always floored it when we went to lunch. Good times.

    Edward KokolEdward Kokol3 dager siden
  • Gave the thumbs up just for the title

    alan Qtrmainealan Qtrmaine3 dager siden
  • Thank you Mercedes-Benz for lobbying ($$$) U.S. congress in '88 and passing the Vehicle Safety Compliance Act.

    xnreyescjxnreyescj3 dager siden
  • I love boxy car design

    Ghoosh WenGhoosh Wen3 dager siden
  • Two words Vauxhalls lotus carlton.

    Andy HillsAndy Hills3 dager siden
  • Perfect in the making, also for your mechanic

    Terence ChengTerence Cheng4 dager siden
  • My Dad had the 300E 1986, He bought it brand new , This car is indeed the perfect 4 door sedan, built like a tank, straight 6 engine, german engineering at it's finest, very comfortable ride, My dad donated the car in 2015 with 267K miles . Lots of memories

    Cesar AbrahamCesar Abraham4 dager siden
  • Haha silly video everyone knows the e38 was the greatest sedan

    dbernstein85dbernstein854 dager siden
  • Best car video, lol

    Tony Curtis BlondellTony Curtis Blondell4 dager siden
  • Cute dressing gown.

    Simon FSimon F4 dager siden
  • Mercedes was the best by miles and miles ahead of anyone Now you can argue about it being still the best, but barely

    Mohammad Al FattalMohammad Al Fattal4 dager siden
  • GO to the source- Buy a PORSCHE.

    Gene SmithGene Smith4 dager siden
  • Great film. 400E and 500E are still gorgeous even today.

    Siddhesh MhatreSiddhesh Mhatre4 dager siden
  • Very good video

    NUMENORLU DEMİRCİNUMENORLU DEMİRCİ4 dager siden
  • No airbags. Instantly obsolete.

    no taboosno taboos4 dager siden
  • Mercedes today..Bring your wallet for repairs. Lexus reliability is far superior than Mercedes. If you love having your wallet raped. to FIT IN with the 1%....buy Mercedes and BMWs....and that is just for them to scan your vehicle with their special scan tools.

    LoneWolfSigmaLoneWolfSigma4 dager siden
  • Perfect? That old automatic transmission alone makes it totally impossible.

    PistonburnerPistonburner4 dager siden
  • It came up on the right side as proposition. Man ow man, it was so good that i just clicked full screen mode, sat back and watched to the last second. It reminded me of good old times of holy trinity, the top gear. Hats off.

    Sgt. TomSgt. Tom4 dager siden
  • what if you got a popped tire? what then?

    marshallluckymarshalllucky4 dager siden
  • I could not stop watching, very good job !

    AeRoTRAeRoTR4 dager siden
  • It’s Right up there with the GOAT - Lexus Ls400

    josava1josava14 dager siden
  • Very enjoyable video. Glad it came out of no where to Me. Feeling confident sitting in my Sprinter!

    Tim Tv PleaseTim Tv Please4 dager siden
  • My all time favourite W123 and W124

    Parvez A K KhanParvez A K Khan4 dager siden
  • This is great content man! Thank you.

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  • And then Lexus came with the LS400. Boy, were they upset at MB, Audi and BMW. But I do admit that the Kathedral (W140) demands respect

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  • I don't dispute its a great car, but really Mercedes fan boys.. You have to give credit where it's due, Porsche designed and engineered the engine and portions of the body, only Porsche and Audi has the most Le Mans wins, this engine won the PE Mans because it's a Porsche engineered engine not Mercedes. Between Merc, Audi and BMW.. Audi will forever have the better engines. Though this is an impeccable car but give credit where it's due honesty won't kill

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  • drove the w124 300e for college. Brilliant and still holds up but be prepared for insane bills.

    Hemo A.H.Hemo A.H.5 dager siden
  • I have a w124 250D and all i can say is the more i try other new cars the more im convinced of what masterpiece they have built.

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  • I had one. Yes the best ever built.

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  • to be honest when i drove an 500e w124 i thought it felt a bit slow, later on i got a s210 e55 which felt way faster, 500e an over hyped saloon in my opinion.

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