Why F1's new 2021 Saturday races are flawed

27. april. 2021
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F1 has announced that it will trial three 'sprint qualifying' races on the Saturdays of grand prix weekends in 2021, releasing full details of how the revised format will work. But as well as explaining the changes being made and why they are coming in, we've also got concerns about the impact it will have on race weekends - and if F1 has really gone far enough with a change that is unlikely to mix things up as much as championship bosses are telling us.
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  • You guys have the most clear and concise graphics, easily understood topic, points and counterpoints. Nice job!

    mmpj twodmmpj twod15 timer siden
  • @THE RACE, I agree, this format is pretty much shit. Instead of coming up with proper regulations so that we wont have such a dominant team/car, FIA comes up with this crappy idea.

    kefren13kefren1321 time siden
  • So now it's 350kms of racing. If that's the case fuck off the hybrids, bring back screaming v10s that use a bit more fuel and have the 1 250km race! Nah but seriously can't wait for this layout its gonna be awesome to watch

    Todd MartinTodd MartinDag siden
  • If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    Joel VanKoughnettJoel VanKoughnettDag siden
    • breaker by each teams points total. Simple and neat.

      mmpj twodmmpj twod15 timer siden
  • Reliability has become even more important now

    wnnalis cioovwnnalis cioovDag siden
  • I totally agree with putting the viewer first for a change and full credit for trying something new. This should enhance the viewer excitement over the three days. This is for the viewer not the race teams. It is worth a try and if this isn't a total success try again until we find a better formula.

    Keith BowlesKeith BowlesDag siden
  • It´s complety pointless. When somebody wins on saturday why he wouldn´t on sunday? So the main race is already decided before it began

    Jajo JokeJajo Joke2 dager siden
  • I'm ... ambivalent. If it means more racing, I'm all for it. If it means more Merc and RB running away with it, less so. Personally, if you're going to add gaining points to the mix, there needs to be some penalty at the same time. Like, say you win the sprint race, you might win 3 points but you have to take a 10kg ballast addition for the race, etc. Then do teams take that extra weight on the chin or short-fuel to negate it but run the risk of having to fuel manage more. I just feel like it's going to be, as you say, more of the same from Sundays and even less racing. Lower teams still have no chance to get higher up the grid barring an incident/retirement and then ... what's different from normal qualifying. We'll have to wait and see though, I'm eager to see if it does make a difference.

    DeJaguarDeJaguar2 dager siden
    • Qualifying NOT a new tyre. This will be the same for everyone on the grid. I think this will make the Friday and Saturday much more exciting as we now have 2 days of qualifyin

      wnnalis cioovwnnalis cioovDag siden
  • Can’t wait for the sprint weekends. The only thing to make it better would be sprinklers for the sprint races.

    alida flusalida flus2 dager siden
  • Using the Q2 rule what if the rules said that they had to start the race on Sunday on the same compound tire they finished the sprint race on? That would throw a mix into the starting grid on Sunday I think

    Super ScooterSuper Scooter2 dager siden
  • The only way this adds excitement is front runners crashing out in the sprint race putting them at the back. Otherwise, kind of a gimmick.

    Dustin MarlowDustin Marlow2 dager siden
  • A reverse championship race on a Saturday would be cool - the top teams could earn more points, but they’d have to fight through the field for it.

    Ben DixonBen Dixon2 dager siden
    • F1 governing body specially with Ross Braun is like a chimp throwing a wrench at any and all problems.

      alida flusalida flus2 dager siden
  • F1 has been destroying its own history for years, but this takes the cake.

    rodrricorodrrico2 dager siden
  • the front.

    dolita windodolita windo3 dager siden
  • The biggest problem to this is/are the itself. They are currently too wide and too long for it to justify a sprint race! Minimal overtaking will still happen if 2 cars barely fit on a corner.

    Enrique AyalaEnrique Ayala3 dager siden
  • I'm dead against having World Championship points awarded for a qualifying sprint race

    Anthony BubbAnthony Bubb3 dager siden
  • It's only for 3 races, so I think it could be fun to see how it plays out

    Cory BysCory Bys3 dager siden
    • Pretty out of touch for the higher ups to think people don’t like regular qualifying

      dolita windodolita windo3 dager siden
  • Watch the ticket prices increase then because they deem the racing to be more exciting on these days

    rockisitrockisit3 dager siden
  • Only the 1st race of the year has qualifying, session, all other circuits only have practice sessions, and the grid is set in the reverse order of the drivers championships points, tie breaker by each teams points total. Simple and neat.

    Patrick RothlisbergerPatrick Rothlisberger3 dager siden
  • More action on Friday, when I and everyone I know are still at work !

    3795 Mpower3795 Mpower4 dager siden
  • I like the idea of using three GPs for testing and see what happens, what people think, and what impact it has... after those three races, need intense consideration from all parties

    Gonzalo SanchidriánGonzalo Sanchidrián4 dager siden
  • Okay hear me out, everything about the sprint, but with a reverse grid to qualifying

    Saad SalmanSaad Salman4 dager siden
  • With F1 coming up with this sprint race qualifying rubbish it confuses me why they are having trouble working out a good weekend timetable and making such dumb decisions. I think every F1 fan would love to see the drivers alone on the track giving it their all, Man and machine pushing the limits, no distractions, no traffic, no excuses. So with that in mind, here is my idea for a race weekend. Friday P1 - 1 Hour. P2 - 1 Hour. Q1 - 20 Minutes, with the same rules currently in use, top 15 go to Q2 Q2 - 20 Minutes, with the same rules currently in use, top 10 go to Q3 Saturday P3 - 1 Hour. Q3 - The top 10 drivers get 1 Hotlap in the reverse order they finished in Q2 (So last goes first etc), this decides race start position. The driver who qualifies in pole gets 1 Championship point. Sunday Race. Tyres All drivers can select any of the tyres used in Qualifying as long as they were used on a lap that is no more than 10% slower than their fastest Qualifying lap. e.g.Verstappen Qualifies on Pole in Q3 with a time of 1:20:000 on Soft tyres. In Q2 he did a 1:20:500 on Meduim tyres and a 1:21:199 on Hard tyres in Q1 (10% is 1.2 Sec). For the start of the race he has the choice of all 3 Compounds as long as it is the same tyre used in Qualifying NOT a new tyre. This will be the same for everyone on the grid. I think this will make the Friday and Saturday much more exciting as we now have 2 days of qualifying.

    BrodiesbumvideoBrodiesbumvideo4 dager siden
  • Reliability has become even more important now

    hoiy vinosahoiy vinosa4 dager siden
  • I think that it's a good idea to give it a trial but I'd like to see the points go further than the top three. Might work but might not so let's try it and then decide.

    pikeman2pikeman24 dager siden
  • Gawd I'm tired of seeing everyone wearing masks.

    Snarge22Snarge224 dager siden
  • F1 governing body specially with Ross Braun is like a chimp throwing a wrench at any and all problems.

    Mike PalermoMike Palermo4 dager siden
    • being run by money hungry individuals and suffers from this as every year rolls on!

      hoiy vinosahoiy vinosa4 dager siden
  • I really not worry about it I kinda like it and I can't wait now 🤣🤣👌🏿

    Kebba GayeKebba Gaye4 dager siden
  • Can’t wait for the sprint weekends. The only thing to make it better would be sprinklers for the sprint races.

    doire aintudoire aintu5 dager siden
  • The issue is that this is a bastard version of sprint qualifying. Real sprint qualifying has the person with the most points start in the rear and forces them to actually race in a pack. In the end this true method make the championship way closer between everyone. I guess Mercedes and red bull paid off the FIA to avoid this tho

    ColdOneColdOne5 dager siden
  • Okay so here’s my 2 cents: I would rather watch a 100km race than practice. HOWEVER, if it turns Sunday’s race into a procession it can get bent. I 100% agree that a trial is the best way to find out if it works.

    Comrade ObliviousComrade Oblivious5 dager siden
    • for the point scorers from sprint race. Award same 🔟, 8️⃣, 6️⃣, 5️⃣, 4️⃣, 3️⃣, 2️⃣, 1️⃣ points for top 8 finishers ➕ an EXTRA POINT for each position gained in the race.

      doire aintudoire aintu5 dager siden
  • Pretty out of touch for the higher ups to think people don’t like regular qualifying

    Will RamirezWill Ramirez5 dager siden
  • why ''you think'' etcetc. sick of the titles like you are saying ''it is'' wrong. no mate...you ''think'' its wrong. shut it average fool

    jack dawsonjack dawson5 dager siden
  • Not a fan ngl

    Dan BirdDan Bird5 dager siden
  • It's totally unnecessary. I understand why they won't but the ideal scenario to mix things up is just to delete FP2 and reduce FP3 to something like 15 minutes and treat it as a warm up or shakedown session before Qualy. Oh and off topic but take note of the concessions for testing that motogp uses, so teams who haven't won races or had less than x number of podiums in the last y years are allowed additional testing time.

    David CoughlanDavid Coughlan5 dager siden
  • Awarding points in an experimental format during a live season is an atrocious decision, not to mention to the heightened risk for all drivers in sabotaging their GP with racing incident in qualifying. Both of these points are more damaging to lesser teams too. I just don't see it as viable. I would far rather see the points system in GP adjusted to award further down the order. This immediately make the season more competitive. It does of course come with its own complexities.

    D&DeepD&Deep5 dager siden
  • Who saw Quali today?

    Papote YataPapote Yata5 dager siden
  • It's such a poor Implementation imho. Personally I would have done the following. Extended Feature race points all the way down BUT the care had to be classified as finishing (and to prevent cars just limping around for a point DQ's handed out if they aren't deemed to be driving at a reasonable pace) as that would make fighting for everyone point meaningful. Sprint race would also have points all the way down but only half the points of the feature race. The Sprint race would either be reverse championship or perhaps the reverse of the previous race (apart from the first race, there would need to be qualifying for that. IF its reverse previous race any car not classified as finishing would start at the back of the sprint race so that teams don't retire a car to get 1st in the sprint race ) and would decide the grid. Drivers would hence not only want to overtake to get as many points as possible but the fastest cars would want to get as close to the front as possible so they started closer to the front. Would hence limit the chances of a car just running away and would force the best drivers to show why they are the best by overtaking

    Simon WakefieldSimon Wakefield5 dager siden
  • A reverse grid qualifying sprint race based on championship standings. That would've been competitive, equal, fair and exciting to watch, whilst still being able to keep the meritocracy and the integrity of the sport (with no points dished out before the actual race).

    JoachimJoachim5 dager siden
  • Bad idea but like the race

    ReadytogameReadytogame5 dager siden
  • any points for fastest lap in sprint race?

    Frank BaningFrank Baning5 dager siden
  • I think it’s a ridiculous idea as it imperils the event on race day and surely the public have enough given to them by the main race let alone the cars and drivers. The sport is being run by money hungry individuals and suffers from this as every year rolls on!

    Jeff WhiteJeff White5 dager siden
  • If I was hass I’d stay in the garage for sprint race. Save money. Oh and thumbs down since you said not too early on.

    Jordan HJordan H5 dager siden
  • Friday: 1hr FP1 session. 30 min FP2. 1hr knock out qualifying. Saturday: FP3 only for drivers in the bottom half of the championship. 1hr knock out qualifying (aggregate times of Fri and Sat qualifying decide the grid). Race: one mandatory change compound (on a dry weekend). Run whichever compounds you want on Friday and Saturday sessions, start the race on fresh tyres.

    RuyLopezQB6RuyLopezQB65 dager siden
  • if there are still only a limited number of engines per a driver, this will put add stress on the engines, and drive up the costs for the teams. The only way that will work if the points a divided between the two races, example on Sunday the winner gets 25 points, so Saturday's sprint winner gets 10 points and on Sunday winner gets 15 points, and so on for the Saturday race only the top three gets points.

    glen herronglen herron5 dager siden
  • "whether this will have actual fundamental advantage beyond more dedicated track time to racing than practice" That to me, is a fundamental advantage

    Revving OverloadRevving Overload5 dager siden
  • Consider THIS. QUALI on FRIDAY Half race distance SPRINT RACE on SATURDAY with 🔟 , 8️⃣, 6️⃣, 5️⃣, 4️⃣, 3️⃣, 2️⃣, 1️⃣ points on offer. On SUNDAY, start race with a REVERSE GRID for the point scorers from sprint race. Award same 🔟, 8️⃣, 6️⃣, 5️⃣, 4️⃣, 3️⃣, 2️⃣, 1️⃣ points for top 8 finishers ➕ an EXTRA POINT for each position gained in the race.

    KK BKK B5 dager siden
  • Overcomplicated.

    Nick HNick H5 dager siden
  • we don’t know what we will see. But sounds good.

    Factor MarsFactor Mars5 dager siden
  • As mentioned in your review I like the idea of extra races and fans will get better value for money. My concerns is about the extra wear and tear on the engines and gearboxes? The teams now have 23 races instead of 21 with 3 engines and now some extra sprint races. Engine reliability towards the end of the year could decide the championship not the drivers. I thought the F1 management was trying to reduce costs for the teams not potentially increase the costs.

    Walter CardilloWalter Cardillo5 dager siden
  • The one thing that genuinely works well at the moment in F1 is qualifying. So naturally, the genius that is Domenicalli goes 'We must break this too!'

    Skazz the TerribleSkazz the Terrible6 dager siden
  • My opinion, the pro's are that it will be great for ticket sales and add major value to spectators, but I fear 95% of the TV audience won't be able to watch live either Friday or Saturday as most people have normal jobs. If points were awarded further down the field it might be exciting, but anyone outside the top 5 isn't going to take any risks for minimal reward. To really spice things up, F1 needs some form of reverse grid scenario

    Ryan MarshallRyan Marshall6 dager siden
  • This is what you get when you have boomers running a sport for the young.

    bishopoftroybishopoftroy6 dager siden
  • Well, they are “testing this” at 3 races... so kudos on trying new things without changing the whole championship. I’d love to see a proper superpole for qualifying. Let them all do Q1 and 2, but then the final Q3 everyone exits the pits and gets just 1 flying lap to set their best time for final grid slots. It’s exciting and let’s 1 lap wonders move up the grid, meaning more exciting starts to races too.

    D.B.D.B.6 dager siden
  • The idea is interesting, but the sprint races would be way more spectacular with a reverse grid start instead of the Friday qualifying. Cutting through the field from the back would really exhibit and differentiate the top drivers' intelligence and racecraft. I would be very excited to see Max and Lewis do that at the same time and see who comes out on top. On the other hand, I would be wary of too many crashes.

    froreyfirefroreyfire6 dager siden
  • What if you give 1 point to any driver that gets track positions during the sprint qualifying. Pushing drivers to really try to overtake during that session. I'm a bit worried that it will be a really conservative race.

    Antônio AgsAntônio Ags6 dager siden
  • Why change a qualifying system that works...

    Dusan TopicDusan Topic6 dager siden
  • Flawed is a bit dramatic, it's only 3 races and it will make every session more important over the weekend

    pato9097pato90976 dager siden
  • If Mercedes clutches the title from RB with sprint race points I'm never watching F1 again

    Liam SweeneyLiam Sweeney6 dager siden
  • I think it could work, but the sprint race HAS HAS HAS to be reverse grid. The exact current format is ridiculous

    Robert HarringtonRobert Harrington6 dager siden
  • It's the first iteration of a new idea. Let's see how it goes.

    Craig SipsCraig Sips6 dager siden
  • I am a vocal opponent of this new format.

    ADC-I SouthADC-I South6 dager siden
  • The sprint qualy races should've been reserved for teams that score less points. Like if you're a certain percentage behind the top 3 in number of points. This way they get a bit of motivation when they score but are not really grand prix winners and the bigger teams can relax and save their billions. It also wont take away from the prestige of a Sunday race as the big teams won't race on Saturdays. Just my 2bhp.

    AmazezingerAmazezinger6 dager siden
  • I can see this causing more problems in the repair departments too. There is going to be more wheel to wheel racing and a chance for more damage or accidents. Pair this with the lower budgets of each team and this could cause money issues later on in the season.

    Isaac TourandIsaac Tourand6 dager siden
  • You don't get "more for your buck" They can now justify charging more bucks!

    bilinas minibilinas mini6 dager siden
  • I'm too new of a fan to say what is good and what is bad for F1 however I will give my opinion on the idea. I am not for it. I would think it would take away a lot of unpredictability and entertainment from the Sunday race. Best way to see it is with normal quali, there is a chance someone can over or under perform for one lap and change how people race on Sunday. With a race quali, it takes that away, and it would seem like Saturday and Sunday results have an even higher chance of being identical. I'm for the testing of it though. It may surprise me and I end up liking the idea. Not likely but I wouldn't know until I see it.

    xXJJ7240XxxXJJ7240Xx6 dager siden
  • Meet the new boss, same as the old boss--The Who

    Mark MlinarMark Mlinar6 dager siden
  • Let's wait and see. I'm happy they're not just permanently changing it and shoving it down our throats. They're just trying it out for now

    Alexander FAlexander F6 dager siden
    • season start is just a horrible idea. If it was in advance so teams can prepare themselves it would make a whole lot more sense.

      bilinas minibilinas mini6 dager siden
  • Interesting, rightly the Friday and Saturday need a little something but not quite so that it takes focus off the main race, it’ll be a suck it and see idea and we’ll probably be able to decide more definitely after a couple of races

    Tony MartinTony Martin6 dager siden
  • What did everyone expect from the FIA, maybe one day we will see drivers having a say on new rules that affect them.

    Archie RedmanArchie Redman6 dager siden
  • Seems like a poorly conceived and questionable idea with even poorer and more questionable rules that could have a detrimental effect on the franchise that is gradually fading like the fading sound of its engines.

    Simon YSimon Y6 dager siden
  • Having read all the comments and proposals I still prefer Bernies idea of mandatory sprinklers at every track. “With random activation based on level of generated lack of excitement” perhaps.

    Peter DeethPeter Deeth6 dager siden
  • Good points. Still interested to see what happens. If only they awarded points to the drivers who make the most overtakes in the first race.

    Danny MorenoDanny Moreno6 dager siden
  • Sounds like a money grab from the broadcasters, the FIA and tyre company. It sounds like a headache for the teams and will be harsh for the lower teams after spending years trying to make racing closer this will make a bigger gap in Total points at the end of year.

    Terry CremerTerry Cremer6 dager siden
  • I think it would be more exciting when the sprint race would be in a reverse qualifying grid

    JustinJustin6 dager siden
  • How much fun would it be to watch Lewis or Max have an issue on Saturday then have to charge through the field on Sunday

    robert redmonrobert redmon6 dager siden
  • F1 needs a way to force those at the top of the championship back down the grid. Formula E does this quite effectively by having those at the top of the championship setting qualifying times first giving those further back a more rubbered in track

    Little ChangesLittle Changes6 dager siden
  • simply eliminate all friday sessions, have one FP session on saturday followed by qualification. race on sunday. simple.

    Christian RamirezChristian Ramirez6 dager siden
  • Not even a sport, how can you be winning and then told to come second, UNBELIEVABLE...........

    Pickles-the- ChimpPickles-the- Chimp6 dager siden
  • I love the idea, it opens a whole new world of opportunities for Ferrari to screw thing up

    Raul SotoRaul Soto6 dager siden
  • Anyone seeing how F1 is meant to be cutting costs, I'm failing to see how this is cost effective, an extra race means more fuel, more engine wear, more tyres, more damage costs... I could go on

    Shelden SummersShelden Summers6 dager siden
  • Surely it will help lower teams qualify higher, as the faster boys will be more likely to have an off sending them back a bit, but also I suppose midfield is more likely to have a few boops... I'm just excited to see how it goes tbh... At least if it's bad, we can just revert back, it's a low risk introduction and people shouldn't be so angry about it xD

    DontBeStupid StupidDontBeStupid Stupid6 dager siden
  • My bigger fear actually is that the budget cap will result in teams driving safer - which will directly result in less attractive races. Also making the choice to implement this after the season start is just a horrible idea. If it was in advance so teams can prepare themselves it would make a whole lot more sense.

    PresidentScroogePresidentScrooge6 dager siden
  • It should not be done mid season. A show event for this format makes sense but not as part of the world championship. Smacks of an extra days tv advertising to me 🤔

    Muz MasonMuz Mason6 dager siden
  • It doesn’t really tighten up the grid as I hoped. The fastest car will just win the sprint race no problem and gain more points, right?

    Jason NajmJason Najm6 dager siden
  • The Saturday race should be an inverted start from qualifying.

    Josef LotzJosef Lotz6 dager siden
  • That's cool and everything, but I'd rather see points awarded back to last place, make every pass matter!

    Ryan CarsonRyan Carson6 dager siden
  • Spice it up in the sprint race, allow drs to be deployed, on demand, for 25 seconds per lap and give them tyres that can be pushed hard on every lap

    T GallowayT Galloway6 dager siden
  • I don’t often say something is confusing in F1, but this new format is. How would I make it better since someone at F1 thinks curen qualifying needs to change. We already have FP1, FP2, FP3. Why not use them all for qualifying and have best time from each FP session count to the final grid positions for the sprint race. - FP1 runs as it does now, teams can test as they do now, but your best time on the hardest tires (or wet or intermediate if it’s raining) is recorded. You can set this time whenever you want. Since this is still FP1, no one can expect opposition will move aside if you run fast lap, if they are running long run program or similar. Deliberate blocking isn’t allowed. - FP2 is similar with only diference, time from middle compound (or wet or intermediate if it’s raining) is recorded and added to the best FP1 time. - FP3 is similar with only diference, time from softest compound (or wet or intermediate if it’s raining) is recorded and added to the best FP1+FP2 time. At the start of FP3 teams have to select engine mode and use it to the and of the Sunday race. At the end of the FP3, cars go to parc ferme. If you can’t record time at the FP, you get slowest time recorded + 10 seconds. This combined 3 times gets you starting grid for the sprint race. There is no “parc ferme” on the Friday, on penalties for changing parts, they can even use “party mode” if they want. Teams can test what they want as they do now, but must try to post best possible time at all FP.

    Craig FergusonCraig Ferguson6 dager siden
  • All that is good but there’s one question, w h y

    Κωνσταντίνος ΑλεξίουΚωνσταντίνος Αλεξίου6 dager siden
  • Wsbk has the best format. Quali, race 1, sprint quali race, race 2.

    Aaron ThomasAaron Thomas6 dager siden
  • I think this is brilliant. They try it three times and gauge the results and reaction. And this is Ross Brawn we are talking about, I think he has earned the opportunity to try something new, no?

    Serge LachapelleSerge Lachapelle6 dager siden
  • F1 is loosing its old charm in pursuit of making the sport interesting and tech savvy.

    Raag GandhiRaag Gandhi6 dager siden
  • Actual format is shitty. Everybody is on the track at the same time. You don't see a full lap from anyone. The best format was 1lap/ driver.

    marc millismarc millis6 dager siden
  • Let's think about Mercedes engine life at the year end

    Krunal ChauhanKrunal Chauhan6 dager siden
  • you gotta love it, insted of lowering what they charge the host for the "privileage" of having the GP, they get a second race that counts for almost nothing soo they can charge you more on the tickets or pay per view, because that's are already cheap enougth. Better balance for car performance? Fuck that, charge more money the have the same old races where the car that win are always the same. Reverse grid?!!? BOP?? nahhhhhh

    Von CrackenfartVon Crackenfart6 dager siden
  • I work on Fridays so I’m going to have to not listen to any sport news on the radio until I get home to rewatch qualifying

    Matthew ThompsonMatthew Thompson6 dager siden
  • How very nascar of them...

    SteveSteve6 dager siden
  • I guess i will no longer be able to watch quali since it happens in a time when normal people are at work. Imstead of missing fp, ill miss q. Great -.-'

    K4554pK4554p6 dager siden
  • Can't wait till Mercedes gets slammed by a back marker and have to rebuild the entire car overnight. and Lewis then starting on 20th on the grid... that's going to be the end of that.

    Jeremy SmithJeremy Smith6 dager siden
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